Php Ide Anyone?

[dbmasters]

I am kinda scouting for a good PHP IDE. I have been using Dreamweaver for a long time, but am kinda looking for something more PHP focused. I just started using http://www.mpsoftware.dk/phpdesigner.php and it's pretty cool but doesn't have any database integration... http://www.xored.com/trustudio looks good for under $100 has anyone used it? Others are hella expensive...

Does anyone else have IDE's for PHP development they dig?

[eugene]

I guess Notepad.exe is out of the question??? :lol:

I use Ultraedit, but then, I just write code. ;)

[dbmasters]

Ummmmmm, I just right code too...I am not looking for a WYSIWYG editor, I am looking for an IDE...

[eugene]

I know, Dan. I was just being silly. :rolleyes:

[thevillageinn]

I got familiar with the MS IDE when I started 'programing' and searched for quite a while to find something which felt as comfortable when I started playing around with PHP, but never found anything. I too adopted UltraEdit, but that's not really an answer to your original question.

[dbmasters]

Yeah, thats what got me on the hunt, I am working in Visual Studio .Net a lot these days and it makes me want a PHP version. There is a PHP plugin for Visual Studio, TruStudio looks cool but it's turning out to be kinda slow and not very much more than PHPDesigner or Dreamweaver...oddly, PHP Designer is turning out to be about the best I have used so far and it's free...but Dreamweaver also has the built in FTP that is so well integreated I may just end up sticking with that...

[eugene]

Doesn't Zend have an IDE?

[dbmasters]

Yeah, I plan to try that one too, that's the last one on my list...haven't got to it yet.

[c]

Web dev IDEs ?? They all suck.

Zend is the worst because they really have no excuse for things not working.


Maguma is okay until you have to do something then it is a mess.

Komodo (using this one now) has support for different languages but this is the only plus.

phpedit is okay but not worth the money.


No HTML intellisense just snippets

No CSS intellisense just snippets

No proper harddisk access to files

Buggy and/or missing drag and drop for text

No javascript debugging

Debugging on windows using Apache should be a click away. Instead none of them work out of the box and most do not work with the latest php4 or php5


IDE software companies need to get a clue. PHP programmers are still resopnsible for doing HTML and XHTML along with style sheets. Most want an IDE only for two things Class and function browsing and debbugging. But web developers are not willing to trade getting these for proper HTML support. Nor do we want to pay 300 george washingtons to get less capabilities in an IDE than we have in an advanced HTML editor. They seem to be more concerned with moving the command liners into a GUI rather actually creating a perfect IDE for those that actually use them to save time and brains.

Dreamweaver is still the best thing to use even though it lacks IDE capabilities. This touches on my NDA but I wish that Macromedia had gone through with another IDE project that had everything. It looks like they are going to try and put it in DW though from the looks of DW8.

Right now I am using Homesite, Komodo and opening Dreamweaver now and again. I wish Homesite had the site management capabilities of DW and the IDE capabilities of Komodo.

[scottnj]

Has anyone tried PHPEclipse?
http://www.phpeclipse.de

[c]

Originally posted by scottnj@Sep 14 2005, 08:18 PM
Has anyone tried PHPEclipse?
http://www.phpeclipse.de

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I just tried both phpeclipse and trustudio foundation. They both have nice interfaces and are fast underthe eclipse environment. But they lack the same things as all the other IDE and have the same problems. No code view that works outside of a Class and no debugger that works out of the box.

Being able to find code classes,methods,functions and variable along with being able to debug are the only reasons for having an IDE. This is what made the old Visual Studio the defacto ASP IDE. No PHP IDE does these two things even half way decently.

Save your money and don't waste your time on the free ones. They all have a long way to go.

[dbmasters]

I tried TruStudio and Eclipse as well, they were seriously limited in scope as c mentioned, I was far more impressed with PHP Designer than about any other one I tried. So instead, I'll just with Dreamweaver. It has great code coloring and function tips, has a nice ftp site management and such...

Thus ends my search...

I wish I had the money to check out the php.net plugin for visual studio, visual studio is what I would like to see duplicated for a .net environment but, eh, I am just a poor web developer, ain't got that kind of money.

[c]

Also the multi purpose IDE s like Eclipse and Komodo seem to do a perfect job with Perl, Ruby and Python even handle some odd mixtures. But they just get really weird and unusable when it comes to PHP.

[dbmasters]

thats good to know, ruby and python I really wanna dive into a little bit when I get time...

[dbmasters]

http://www.maguma.com/ looks interesting, maybe I will give that a run when I have time.

[c]

Looks like activestate Komodo has risen to the top of the pile. I got xdebug going in a few minutes on two different Apache localhost packages. Even though it has some quirks like not showing the cursor on drag and drop and not showing Ruby functions and methods in the browser it is quick clean and non java. The bad stuff is only minor compared to eclipse and Zend. Maguma is ok if you are going to do just PHP and it had the same problem as the other bad IDEs, the debugger just does not work. The price is right also , $30. Enough to make you appreciate the amount of work that goes into it but not enough to break you and make you go crying to the support forums everytime your $300 baby acts up.

Maguma and Zend both have an annoying problem. There are no crosses to close files. You have to go to the top menu or right click to close anything. Stupid!

[dbmasters]

Originally posted by c@Sep 30 2005, 06:44 AM
Maguma and Zend both have an annoying problem. There are no crosses to close files. You have to go to the top menu or right click to close anything. Stupid!

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Oh jeezuz, that's really lame...