Hosted Gmail

[dbmasters]

Wasn't there a thread around here somewhere that stepped one through the process of hooking up your email to Gmail's hosted service? I could swear I remember seeing one. Well, I want to use it, and now I can't find the thread...

Anyone else do it?

[tnas]

http://www.hostpc.com/community/showthread.php?t=2500

I think this is it.

[dbmasters]

I suppose it is, I thought there was a more "official" one posted by Joe, Sean or somebody...guess I was wrong, that one will work tho...I think I am going to do this...after I convince my wife how cool the gmail interface is.

[dbmasters]

Will it take a while for these changes to propogate or anything? I sent myself an email from my work and it went to the hosted account, then web site alerts were still sending it to my POP box.

Will the existing POP boxes need to be deleted or shouldn't that matter?

Will emails from inside the HostPC network still be forwarded or will it attaempt to send to the domain box regardless of MX records?

[MoreFiles]

I know internally generated email (like cron notifications) end up in my hostpc box .. despite any mx changes (but I do have my mx stuff over on zoneedit) .. just checked I did have the settings on hostpc set up the same way to point towards google for the mx too.

(you can set up gmail / and I suppose google hosted mail) to retrieve pop3 mail from your hostpc account..

[dbmasters]

I know internally generated email (like cron notifications) end up in my hostpc boxI just saw that myself. I have to say, the internal email handling is probably the single most disappointing thing I have seen yet in DirectAdmin...it may well force to to move my main domain off DA...Gmail hosted is too cool to let a stupid control panel end up costing me email...the POP access is to use a pop client to get gmail, I haven't seen a feature to have gmail pick up other pop email...I'll have a look though.

[dbmasters]

hosted email doesn't have the "get mail from other accounts" option.

crap.

[dbmasters]

Well, what I did for now is used a bogus gmail account I have had for months but never used. I send internally created messages to that account, then that account forwards it to my domain email...seems to work, kind of a silly hack there, but it works.

[eugene]

Well, what I did for now is used a bogus gmail account I have had for months but never used. I send internally created messages to that account, then that account forwards it to my domain email...seems to work, kind of a silly hack there, but it works.
Sorry, just a bit confused. With the hosted gmail option, you can set up nicknames. These can be linked to a particular gmail-backed email.
For example, on my domain the emails are of the form firstname.lastname@mydomain.com (firstname.lastname@mydomain.com).
I had been accepting emails to eugene@mydomain.com (eugene@mydomain.com) before switching to the gmail service, so I created a nickname and now can accept email at both addresses.

[dbmasters]

I'll have to try this.

The biggest problem I noticed, which likely affect resellers more than anyone, is that any of my clients that try to email me at dan@mydomain.com, it automatically sends to my domain within the server, and then rejects it as undeliverable since it's not there, as the MX record don't affect that sort of mail.

Therefore, even after MX records are set, you still need to set up a auto-forwarding within DirectAdmin to deal with the situation, and send it to an out-of domain email address and bounce that back to your domain.

Stupid.

[dbmasters]

'splain to me please about this nickname thing, I looked thru hosted gmail and don't see the option. Is what you are saying is that I could set up my dan@domain.com to receive mail from multiple "virtual" type inboxes that all just filter to mine?

[dbmasters]

never mind, just found it. in the admin section, not the user section, very cool feature, and works great!

[admin]

"Google email servers are responsible for a large volume of backscatter spam (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backscatter#Backscatter_of_email_spam). No recipient validation is being performed for the domains googlegroups.com and blogger.com — possibly for other Google domains as well, but these two have been confirmed. (You can test this by sending an email to a bogus address in either of the domains; you'll quickly get a Google-generated bounce message.) Consequently spammers are able to launch dictionary attacks against these domains using forged envelope sender addresses. The owners of these forged addresses are then inundated with the bounce messages generated by the Google mail servers. The proper behavior would be for the mail servers to reject email traffic to non-existent users during the initial SMTP transaction. Attempts at contacting them via abuse@google.com and postmaster@google.com have gone unanswered for quite some time. Only automated responses are received which say Google isn't doing anything wrong."

http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/04/08/2258246