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jasman24
02-29-2004, 11:09 AM
I'm a little (maybe alot) confused. I'm looking for a little clarification. Maybe someone could define and explain how to "add on," "subdomain," "multiple domains." Also, which hosting package is needed.

I have several of the $49. starter plans. Also, a couple of the new $12 plans. (i'm thinking now that I may not have needed these)

I have a few small "family picture" type sites, each are just a few megabytes each. But they all have their own domain names. Right now they each have their own hosting plan which is a big waste of space. I don't want them to be subdomains of eachother (ie. www.siteone.mainsite.com)

So, my question is, at this point if I want to create a new site and register a unique domain name, can I use one of the starter plans that I already have to host it? If so what is this called so I can go to sitehelper.com and learn more about it?

Also, I have registered a couple of domain names that are misspellings of another domain name so if someone misspells jimsiefert.com as jimseifert.com they get redirected. Right now I have two hosting plans, one for each. Did I need to do that? Or could this have been handled differently?

Thanks inadvance to anyone that helps me understand this all better.

Jim
p.s. even if i did spend more than I needed, I love hostpc and consider it money well spent. :)

Nick
02-29-2004, 03:23 PM
Hello jasman24

I'll explain this using the starter plan since you mentioned that one

You have 8 GB of bandwidth and 350 MB of disk storage, 50 email addresses and 1 add-on domain..I won't get into the specifics..mysql db's and such..look here for that
http://hostpc.com/compareplans.html

With that plan you get 1 domain and 1 add-on domain..so basically you get 2 domains
abc.com and cba.com .. both separate domains but limited by 8 GB of bandwidth and 350 MB of disk storage and 50 email addresses

You can have unlimited subdomains - YOURDOMAIN.abc.com or YOURDOMAIN.cba.com
also, limited by 8 GB of bandwidth and 350 MB of disk storage and 50 email addresses

Not sure what you mean by multiple domains..I think your asking about def.com pointing to abc.com ... that is called a domain alias..or as DA calls it domain pointer
those are unlimited..all they bascially do is tell the internet to point def.com to abc.com

Hope that helps you understand.

jasman24
03-01-2004, 12:19 AM
Nick,

Thanks for clearing that up. All I need is to figure out the DA domain pointer stuff. I'll look around sitehelper.com for that.

Thanks again,
Jim

Nick
03-01-2004, 02:27 AM
http://myhostpc.com/faq/faq.php?s=3#9

thevillageinn
03-01-2004, 03:01 AM
Jim,
to add to what Nick said...most of those hosting packages you have aren't necessary, since with DA you can have multiple separate domains on one account. In other words you can have: (like Nick said) abc.com and cba.com, and each has it's own separate content. These are called "add-on" domains. Since the starter package only comes with one, you are limited to one, unless you buy some more, see here for extras (http://www.hostpc.com/extras.html). In that case you could have 1 + 1 + 5 (or 10 or more) domains on your starter package, and as long as you have disk space all's well.

in the other case, the "domain pointers" is where you would use the mis-spellings of the domain name which would point to the main site. Or any other domain which you would want to 'share' the same content.

hope that helps.

eugene
03-01-2004, 11:26 AM
Just adding on to thevillageinn's words, for example suppose you own crazydavescoolstuff.net, .com, .biz, .ws, and .us. . . you could have one account with a bunch of "domain pointers" so that ALL of your domain names would point to the same account and content.

caddickj
03-01-2004, 02:24 PM
So let's say I set up cba.com to point to abc.com.

Someone goes to cba.com. Do they get redirected to abc.com (i.e., does their address bar read "abc.com") or do they just see the abc.com content (i.e., their address bar still reads "cba.com")?

eugene
03-01-2004, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by caddickj@Mar 1 2004, 12:24 PM
So let's say I set up cba.com to point to abc.com.

Someone goes to cba.com. Do they get redirected to abc.com (i.e., does their address bar read "abc.com") or do they just see the abc.com content (i.e., their address bar still reads "cba.com")?
They get redirected.

basketclothes
03-01-2004, 04:47 PM
Another question about domain pointers...

Lets say i have cba.com pointing to abc.com.

Do emails sent to someone@cba.com get redirected to someone@abc.com as well?

Or do they get returned?

Thanks

Joe
03-01-2004, 10:51 PM
On DirectAdmin, they will be returned.

thevillageinn
03-02-2004, 03:14 AM
it's true, they will be returned...is there anyway to adjust that default behavior? (I haven't checked at the DA sites yet)

Nick
03-02-2004, 10:38 AM
No, there is no way to change it
It has been brought to the attention of DA authors...

eugene
03-02-2004, 10:52 AM
Instead of using a domain pointer, you could add it as another domain and just put a redirect or .htaccess re-write rule.

The reason the domain pointer doesn't handle email is that there are no MX records created.

thevillageinn
03-03-2004, 12:58 AM
Originally posted by eugene@Mar 2 2004, 06:52 AM
The reason the domain pointer doesn't handle email is that there are no MX records created.
that is what I was eluding to with my question.

could MX records be added to 'resolve' the issue of bounced "domain pointer" e-mail?

Problem with adding domains is that can cost you, whereas pointers typically won't.

eugene
03-03-2004, 01:12 AM
OK, I kind of trivialized the process, you will need to do a little more than simply add an MX record. However, I'd rather not receive hate mail from people who screw up their DNS settings and then blame me (or Joe) that their HostPC.com sites are dead or that email is gone.

eugene
03-03-2004, 01:23 AM
The short answer is that you CANNOT use pointers if you wish to handle email.

Shane
05-19-2004, 12:10 AM
Can I use the same web hosting account and then host more then one domain and website on that account by sharing the diskspace and bandwith between multiple domains and websites?

Joe
05-19-2004, 06:10 AM
Yes, those are Add-On Domains, as described here. (http://www.hostpc.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1068)

Shane
05-19-2004, 05:10 PM
Thanks. And I hope this isn't a stupid question but I have to register them first right?

eugene
05-19-2004, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by Shane@May 19 2004, 03:10 PM
Thanks. And I hope this isn't a stupid question but I have to register them first right?
Registering a domain name adds an entry in the "big" "world-wide" DNS servers that points to a nameserver (at HostPC). The HostPC server will point to your account. So, yes, you will still have to register the name and set the Name Server to nsax.hostpc.com and nsbx.hostpc.com where the x is the hostpc server.

Shane
05-19-2004, 09:24 PM
Ok. That's what I thought. But I was a bit confused by the wording of 3 additional domains in the feature list. Thanks guys!

Dingo
05-22-2004, 09:17 AM
Ok stupid questions here.

The starter acct features "3 Add-On domain" - yes singular.

When I first read that I had assumed that meant it comes with 4 domains - the first one and 3 add-on domains. Looking in DA I think that I was mistaken - plus the fact the wording of the feature being singular.

Anyway - so I think my acct actually is 3 total domains instaed of 4 - and that's ok, but I'm just curious.

Second question - the Order Extras page is not very specific as to the cost structure of additional domains. Are the $12 and $20 charges for 5/10 additional domains a one time fee, a yearly fee, or a monthly fee?

Slumpack
05-24-2004, 11:30 PM
Say if you have 3 domain using 1 account : a.com | b.com | c.com

Question :
1.would be possible to have email account for each domain ?? say 123@a.com | 123@b.com | and so on ???

or the email account only available for the primary domain ??

i tried searching it but couldn't find the answer.

Please answer :)

Thank You

eugene
05-24-2004, 11:34 PM
I currently have an account with an add-on domain. I have email accounts set up on both. Mail works properly. I did not need to make any tweaks to the DNS menu.

Slumpack
05-24-2004, 11:43 PM
Cool :P how bout the webmail interface ?? do you use the same address and login using the domain account ?? ie. 123@a.com or 111@b.com ?

Thank :P

Shane
05-25-2004, 08:18 PM
Now I registered a second domain name using your domain registration service.
(Nice price btw) do I have to do anything with the name servers? The website I got it hosted on uses NS3A.HOSTPC.COM and NS3B.HOSTPC.COM do I have to change my new websites DNS info to NS3A.HOSTPC.COM and NS3B.HOSTPC.COM instead of NS13A.HOSTPC.COM and NS13B.HOSTPC.COM or can I leave it as is and will it still work as my add-on domain?

eugene
05-25-2004, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by Slumpack@May 24 2004, 09:43 PM
Cool :P how bout the webmail interface ?? do you use the same address and login using the domain account ?? ie. 123@a.com or 111@b.com ?

Thank :P
I don't really know about webmail as I don't use it. However, I imagine it would work properly.

Jeff
05-26-2004, 09:17 AM
Webmail logins use the entire email address as the login name.

Joe
05-26-2004, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by Shane@May 25 2004, 07:18 PM
Now I registered a second domain name using your domain registration service.
(Nice price btw) do I have to do anything with the name servers? The website I got it hosted on uses NS3A.HOSTPC.COM and NS3B.HOSTPC.COM do I have to change my new websites DNS info to NS3A.HOSTPC.COM and NS3B.HOSTPC.COM instead of NS13A.HOSTPC.COM and NS13B.HOSTPC.COM or can I leave it as is and will it still work as my add-on domain?
You'll need to change them to ns3a/ns3b - thats where your domain is.

Joe

Shane
05-26-2004, 09:18 PM
Ok Thanks!!!

Shane
05-30-2004, 01:58 AM
It works! Thanks again guys you have been a great help!