Steer Domain Later?

[Guest_zz4]

I have a site on valuablehost.com grandfathered at an old good price.



Its due soon. I own one domain for it.(bought from godaddy)



I don't care about slandering valuablehost.com. Its been dysfunctional since last year and every statement made in 3 years is a lie.-- or just call it fiction?



Even all perl modules gone. Support NONE unless you ask about sending money.




So my question. If I buy an account here can I wait to steer domain here? I need time to get things off valuablehost.com and not sure my access if domain steered elsewhere. :ph34r:

[QuickGold]

Originally posted by Guest_zz4@Jun 22 2004, 06:51 PM
So my question. If I buy an account here can I wait to steer domain here? I need time to get things off valuablehost.com and not sure my access if domain steered elsewhere. :ph34r:
When you say "steer", I assume you mean have it point to our servers, instead of your current web host? If that's the case, you need to simply change the DNS settings.

If that's not what you meant, please clarify so we can help you out.

[Guest_zz4]

ok...I think I have a month left on 'valuablehost.com'. I own a domain now that is steered to there.(or pointed?)
My domain 'mohawkmountain.com'

When a host goes DOWN in 12/2003 with not one message to subscribers and remains down for months? Comes back up with another fiction tale of a new owner. The new owner is TOP SECRET. Valuablehost.com is still with old owner even though its still a fictious name/address. The support forum is removed. Support tickets are closed with no answer. Perl modules vanish.(most all of them) Renew a site there?


It takes me some time to get my site contents off a place and transfered. I guess some know how to do it fast.


If I bought a site here NOW and pointed my domain HERE I'm not sure if I would have accesss to 'valuablehost.com' any more.


If I bought a site here NOW is it normal YOU HAVE TO HAVE A DOMAIN TO GO WITH IT?


I guess I could list my domain and steer it here later and use some temporary something to use this place?

[thevillageinn]

since you already have a domain name you can sign up for an account here with HostPC, and then begin transferring your files. Once you are finished, you would update the DNS entries (with godaddy) to point (steer) to Host PCs servers and then you would be finished.

I don't recall reading anywhere that you had a certain amount of time to get your site set up and point (steer) the DNS after purchasing an account, but I could be wrong.

To specifically answer your last two questions:
1. you already have a domain. listing it in the signup page won't effect you being able to access your files with your old web host.

2. you don't need to have anything temporary or anything at all on your host pc account, before you begin moving your current site over.

[Guest_zz4]

ok...just concerned if I steer domain away from 'valuablehost.com' I'll never get into my site there again.--remember theres NO SUPPORT there....

[Joe]

Once it's transferred here, why would you want to go back - especially if there's zero support?

[thevillageinn]

you have to understand that simply referencing your domain in the HostPC account doesn't steer your account anywhere. it doesn't do anything to how your files are accessed through valueablehost.

you can access your host pc account without using your domain until your files are all transferred over and everything is ready, then you can update your DNS settings which will "steer" traffic from valuablehost to HostPC and that will be the end of you having to deal with valuablehost.

does that make sense?

when you sign up for the host pc account, don't make changes to your domain @ godaddy until you have set up your website files on the new HostPC account and are finished transferring stuff from valuablehost.

[thevillageinn]

Originally posted by Guest_zz4@Jun 23 2004, 12:06 AM
ok...just concerned if I steer domain away from 'valuablehost.com' I'll never get into my site there again.--remember theres NO SUPPORT there....
that is correct.

don't make your DNS changes with godaddy until you have set all your files up on HostPC and have transferred any files you want from your old hosting account.

what you are calling steering - we call pointing here. The process of steering or pointing the traffic at the right server is something you will do manually with GoDaddy to your domain. It will not happen automatically when you sign up for an account with HostPC.

[Guest_zz4]

o---just to answer question about WHY I would wanta go back to valuablehost.com? Its just that I'm so SLOW. I've yet to digest any program that maybe zips up a whole site fast.


I have not snooped at 'webhostingtalk' for comments on valuablehost because the stupid place I can't access. They have my ISP blocked or at least any numbers I dial up to. Ask support there...NO REPLY.

I'll have to try one of those 'anonymous' gadgets to see if can get in.

Valuablehost was an ok place. Sold to some person that I think they thought hosting was where they were gonna get rich. I guess it never happened. If the place worked why complain? -- but most irritating thing to me was everything became fiction. Statements/Promises. Name/Address of owner. Even try mailing a snail mail--it bounces...toll free number? (laugh) Private Data Center? (grin)

Then 12/2003..went down...came up a few months later. Till this day no info to anybody and support forum vanished. Support tickets are closed with no reply. Any useful perl module vanished.


My site is up and running but feed the place money for renewal? When it came to grandfathered pricing it was honored at renewal time 2002/2003 but it took at least a month of support tickets for 'somebody' to understand.

HostPc? I know I'm being dumb as to sticking everything in one place. (I have other accounts here) So far can't beat the price. Even service is always there.

So far its been never-ending SALES which is odd but hostpc still around.

Think of it this way. The more customers and hostpc vanishes? The more cranky people.

[sdl]

This is the perfect thread for me, because I have a similar problem. I can't afford to have any interruptions in service for a week or so, but I would like to sign up right away so that I can get started managing my site and familiarizing myself with the tools available here.

So I read this thread, felt relieved, thought I understood, and went to a sign-up page. First thing it asked me was for my domain name. I thought, "If I give my domain name are they going to attempt to transfer it?" (sorry, I know somehow that's pretty newbie sounding).

My question: Am I right in assuming that I can sign up, give my domain name, etc., but wait to actually point my domain to my hostpc account? I'm the one who does that, right? hostpc won't do any kind of second guessing, or pointing my domain name for me by default?

Hope I'm phrasing all this correctly.

Also, I'm currently hosted with Network Solutions (who also happens to be my registrar). When I'm ready to point my domain here, do I do that first, then "unpoint" it there? How does that work?

[sdl]

Originally posted by sdl@May 16 2005, 03:18 AM

Also, I'm currently hosted with Network Solutions (who also happens to be my registrar). When I'm ready to point my domain here, do I do that first, then "unpoint" it there? How does that work?

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OK, on that last part I feel like an idiot. I control where my domain is pointed at the registrar site, right? I'm the one who does the pointing? NS gives me a control panel for that, so that I can do the pointing myself, anywhere I want. hostpc (or whomever hosts me) just gives me the server data to enter in for when I'm ready to make that change?

If so, I think I have that part of it down - but on the off chance I've misunderstood anything, I can enter my domain without having it repointed for me, right?

[Joe]

Anxiousness, trepedation... thats what they want you to feel... Not at HostPC - we're not about that.... if you've got a question, ask - there's a LOT of people here very willing to help out.

No, signing up for an account doesn't mean your domain is transferred... it's just setting up the framework to start you off. After that, you need to update your DNS (when you're ready)

To change DNS at Network Solutions, this guide should show you how:
http://www.hostpc.com/demos/dns/NetworkSolutions.htm

If you get stuck or have a question, first check the demos: http://hostpc.com/content/view/139/2/ then here in the forums - if there's a question you dont see, just ask :) If it's more site-specific or billing related, our helpdesk (http://helpdesk.hostpc.com) is your best bet - or if you need a more urgent resolution, techs monitor IRC 24x7 : http://www.hostpc.com/forums/index.php?act=announce&f=6&id=7

Hope that helps you de-stress a little :) Welcome to HostPC

[sdl]

Originally posted by Joe@May 16 2005, 04:23 AM
Hope that helps you de-stress a little :) Welcome to HostPC

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Even so, I know firsthand what it is to be so good at something that people get lazily addicted. I will try not be a pain. You have no idea how excited I am to be here, Joe. THANK YOU. You friggen OASIS you.

Also, thank you for helping me get the account set up. Very happy to be here, very happy to shout it from the mountaintops to all my friends as well.

Mr. KidInACandyStore

[thevillageinn]

Originally posted by sdl@May 16 2005, 04:27 AM
OK, on that last part I feel like an idiot. I control where my domain is pointed at the registrar site, right? I'm the one who does the pointing? NS gives me a control panel for that, so that I can do the pointing myself, anywhere I want. hostpc (or whomever hosts me) just gives me the server data to enter in for when I'm ready to make that change?

If so, I think I have that part of it down - but on the off chance I've misunderstood anything, I can enter my domain without having it repointed for me, right?



You've got it correct.

It happens a little like this...you register a domain name - yourdomain.com, in this case with NS. In their control panel you have access to the DNS server settings for the domain.

You sign up for the HostPC account, using your domain name (yourdomain.com) for reference. Your account needs to have that information to be set up - that in itself doesn't make any changes to your DNS server settings at NS.

You transfer your data here to HostPC - using the IP address information provided in your welcome e-mail and when ready go back to the NS control panel and update your DNS server settings with those provided in the welcome e-mail.

Once the DNS changes propagate (anywhere from 5 minutes to 72 hours - typically) your new HostPC site will be up and running. During the propagation time both the HostPC account and your old hosting account may be serving web pages to various users - there shouldn't be any downtime.

[tnas]

..... Oasis..... :P

Even after being a regular for a couple of years..... I've never heard of Joe being an oasis....!

I guess I have become one of the "lazily addicted" ones, except that I'm still impressed with the value given at HostPC.com. Keep up the good work!

[sdl]

Originally posted by tnas@May 16 2005, 06:27 AM
..... Oasis..... :P

Even after being a regular for a couple of years..... I've never heard of Joe being an oasis....!

I guess I have become one of the "lazily addicted" ones, except that I'm still impressed with the value given at HostPC.com. Keep up the good work!

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I stand by it! PURE OASIS. I'm beyond ecstatic.

As far as I'm concerned Joe's ahead of his time. Just watch how many I convert to this place, Joe. All the unbelievable value aside, I've never had anyone put me so squarely into the seat of my own cockpit.

Look Ma, I'm flying!

Nevvahappiah

[sdl]

Here's a quick follow-up for any newbies who might be reading this, still scratching their head the way I was. It still wasn't perfectly clear to me until I went and actually did it.

It works like this (correct me if I'm wrong, anyone):

Set up your domain(s) here first. It doesn't matter that the Registrar's Name Server isn't pointed here yet - nobody's going to see the domain you set up, or be able to access it from the WWW (unless they enter the specific numeric IP address of the server here) until you go to your registrar and enter the two NS1, NS2 names for HostPC. THAT'S when it actually propagates through the web, as the nameserver (NS) tells everyone where to find your NAME.

Even if you set up domain names here (from your account) that don't belong to you - (you could set up pepsi.com if you wanted to!) - means nothing whatsoever without the ability to point the controlling Registrar's Nameserver to it here.

Thanks again, Joe and everyone, for patiently guiding me, and for the welcome.

[Joe]

thats what we're here for ... if you need us, hollar :)

[dbmasters]

Joe is more of a dry lake bed than an Oasis :P

hehehe, just kiddin', HostPC is the bomb, great service, great prices, and a great community.